That was just the vinegar, salt, black pepper, and chili pepper he said in the beginning. The best place to get a good ole southern dinner, the pork was delish and so was the rest of the chicken, hush puppies and so on and so on. I have sampled for many years from Bill Ellis, Parkers, Wilburs, Cherrys, and Ralphs for Eastern NC Style, and just in the last 2 years have added Smithfields into that rotation. Oh well I guess I'd have to buy a smoker and do it myself. There is NO reason to . Add the cabbage, carrots, pepper, and onions to the bowl with the dressing. $29.99. If you are out of state and want to make a good substitute I can tell you how to do it and you dont need a pig cooker. This is some kind of bastard hybrid. Please note that the variety of menu may vary depending on your Posted Sat, Feb 6 2016 2:39PM, Celestine I have hit the mother lode with this NC boba sauce recipe. I'd love guidance from somebody on how to make some that's similar to the store-bought Neese's or Carolina Pride I remember from when I was a kid.Posted Thu, Jan 3 2013 12:15PM, Eddie The above comments about no ketchup in Eastern NC dip are correct, but you have so little in there I can't imagine it will supply much more than color. Updated Mar 2, 2023. Scary!Posted Sun, May 18 2014 2:42PM, Catherine oops! I did find this recipe that might give you a start in what you are looking for.I made up some BBQ yesterday in my crockpot for New Year's using the recipe above which a slight adjustment for personal taste. Posted Sat, Apr 26 2014 4:39PM, Paul This is roughly the same recipe that I use except with the addition of onion and garlic powder. Garner Foods. He obviously learned about cue as a resident of Jamaica. Those look like good starting points. Needless to say it has become a staple for our pork butt day's. First is dark brown sugar, adding a nice molasses sweetness that balances out some tartness and also deepens the overall color of the sauce. A good example is Maurice Bessinger's, based in Columbia. Melt the butter in the pan and add the garlic. 389 likes. From what I have seen, traditional Vinegar sauce doesn't use ketchup. Served with choice of 2 sides. ;) %u2764%uFE0FPosted Wed, Oct 19 2016 12:34AM, Scott %u201CYou may all go to hell and I will go to Texas for the cue'.%u201D Davy Crockett Abe Lincoln told me to believe everything you read on the internet. Thanks to those who offered alternative ideas.Posted Sun, Sep 27 2015 10:23AM, Nicole Kaldahl Lol my husband "RK" is from MN as well. Bacon, ribs, and tonight, rump roast. Liquids. Ive gone as far as having my favorite shipped to me when living elsewhere. The smoker has been running non stop since Sunday. I have had barbecue across this nation and nothing quite compares to how we do it at home.Posted Sun, Jan 16 2022 9:48AM, Lynn Also born and raised in Wilmington. From Fayetteville, NC area. Just no tomato products for this. Their slaw also was the best. I usually like Texas style with a kick but this was my first homemade trial. (Feeds 2-3). This trend continues even as you head west out of state and into Tennessee and Kentucky. Oh, this is my OWN recipe"Posted Sun, Sep 27 2015 4:50PM, Nicole Kaldahl Here I've been thinking it's purely men never being satisfied with what they have. There I learned, without a doubt, just how well dressed up vinegar could enhance the flavor of barbecued pork. Thanks for sharing.Posted Tue, Sep 12 2017 4:59PM, Lisa If anyone ever figures out the sauce and coleslaw recipe used a College BBQ in Salisbury, NC, you will be my hero forever. 2 cups apple cider vinegar 2 tablespoons dark brown sugar 1 tablespoon ketchup 1 tablespoon Texas Pete's 1 teaspoon red pepper flakes 1 teaspoon ground black pepper 1 teaspoon kosher salt Procedure Place all of the ingredients in a small, non-reactive sauce pan and bring to a boil. Enjoy!Posted Fri, Jul 3 2020 10:41PM, steve After all is said and done, the best damn sause was served to me just outside of Durham at "Turnages." We always had Kings Barbeque. At this booth, wine drinkers can snag the Rombauer Zinfandel for $9.50. Texas Pete has been around since 1929, when it was first mixed up by Thad Garner, who was at that time the owner of the Dixie Pig BBQ in Winston Salem. Try the guy's recipe, or don't. Posted Tue, Oct 18 2016 11:25AM, p3orion Scott, I am perfectly swilling to concede that Texas beef is delicious. Contactless delivery and your first delivery or pickup order is free! 1 tbsp : 35: Apple Sauce. $8.05 Pulled Pork Put the onion and garlic in the bottom of your crockpot and pour in the wine. :) The sauce I make for all mine is very similar to the OPs. Thanks!Posted Thu, Jul 9 2015 12:20PM, Ben Would this be good on st louis ribs? Keeps forever.Posted Sat, Oct 7 2017 6:29PM, p3orion James, thanks for posting your red slaw recipe; I've been looking for a good one. After cooling to room temperature, sauces that were refrigerated at least one day ended up having a stronger flavor that was more distinguishable when doused onto to meat. Its kind of like Texans telling the rest of the world what chili is. Small Party Salad. or $9 for 12 oz. Pour the contents of the skillet over the pork in the slow cooker. It had that nasty raw vinegar. Been making variations of Moore's similar sauce for 30 years. Keeps forever.And I do mean forever. I love Carolina sauce as a finishing sauce for pulled pork. Pulled pork? I can't put my finger on it, but something is wrong. Contact me at sp4369@sccoast.net and I will tell you what I think the secret is. I smoked a pork butt & used your recipe. Thanks, Josh for giving me a sauce recipe that at least closely resembles one that my dad cooked up. They will give up some water, so don't worry if the mix seems a bit dry and strong at first. It's not quite as hot as Tabasco, so I raise it up closer to 1 tablespoon Texas Pete. To me, it will always be my favorite. Recipes & Inspiration. This 'Carolina Tang' sauce is awesome regardless of a little tomato included. I think the author has made an excellent attempt here and deserves kudos. But Josh's fixings really got me hooked. For dinner, split a full slab of pork baby back ribs . I have been eating carolina sauces all my life and cooking it at firestations all over NC. Serving Size : 1 tbsp. Our BBQ is the best in the country. Making a 4 cup batch, I used 1 packet of Raw Sugar and 1 teaspoon of molasses (as I was out of brown sugar). Thank you, again. i say if it taste good it is good. It darkens the sauce and gives it a bold flavor that really compliments the meat. What the heck????? 100.0% carbs, Watch on. Hormone-free turkey breast, rubbed with salt and pepper and smoked to perfection. Posted Wed, May 29 2013 4:09PM, Steve Yes! Ate lunch at Scott's BBq, supper at Wilbur's BBq and Rolaids all the way home to Wilmington.189, Here is a red slaw recipe from Lexington, NCRed Slaw6 lb. Anyway, this sauce is the best as is. You might lose some of the pepper "punch" after a while, but that much acid from the vinegar is going to prevent actual spoiling, especially if kept cold.Posted Fri, Jan 15 2016 10:47AM, tbearsghia Being from the middle section of NC The Piedmont Triad Area(Greensboro High Point Winston Salem). When: Friday, 3 to 9 p.m.; Saturday . this was really interesting to me. We were on a two week vacation in Florida, and on the way home, stopped at Duke's BBQ, which was in my top 3 favorite restaurants (and we visited some great places) and will be trying to come close to those great, thin, vinegar based sauces. There was vinegar based sauce available. Join for free! I'm not sure you should have given it to him; it's not uncommon to have a "secret" sauce, and it might have been better just to leave him wondering enviously at your barbecue mastery!Posted Wed, Sep 23 2015 9:20AM, RK Sheesh. I say experiment a little and come with whatever version you like best. I can sometimes buy sliced pork liver in the grocery store, but I have no idea how much to use, since I don't know what a pig's liver would weigh.Posted Sat, Jul 11 2015 5:49PM, Marge I use to live in Goldsboro NC and I used to go to Wilbur's Barbecue resturant. Was a bit hot for me so added another TBL dark brown and 2 TBL white sugar. Posted Fri, Jan 15 2016 8:00AM, David I am from central NC, 2.5 hours to the mountains and 2.5 hours to the beach and live in the same county where Hurseys bbq originally opened, That being said I enjoy both styles of bbq, I think the term you are referring to is lexington style bbq and eastern style bbq. The ingredients were based on items readily available on the farm and in the early 1900s for most that was brown sugar. He appreciates good barbecue, and that is, of course, the great mediator. Share 0 Tweet 0 Pin it 0 Fancy +1. Obviously I am not a purist, because I think the tiny amount of ketsup is ok and adds nice color without impacting flavor much. The western piedmont and mountain regions were settled by different people with different tastes, and some very good barbecue made there may often contain both sugars and a bit of tomato, and yet is every bit as much a "genuine North Carolina barbecue sauce" as the eastern sauces. I was slayed by Short Sugar's in Reidsville. It is vinegar based with .. well, here is the recipe.Lexington Slaw6 lb. Located within Lookout Mountain near Chattanooga, Tennessee, visitors can . Posted Tue, Sep 22 2015 12:25PM, p3orion Hi Nicole- I had trouble finding Texas Pete in Texas too, but I seem to recall H.E.B. Watch on. You'll just need to scale up your cooking pot as well. To each their own, but at very least you sacrifice flavor authenticity (a little pride?). Ruby Falls is America's tallest underground waterfall, meaning that it's literally a hidden gem. I'm also growing to love their mustard based sauces for pork and chicken. No one has even heard of it here in western Georgia. 1 White wine vinegar. Posted Wed, Jun 12 2013 12:57PM, Hermione Hairpie I've got some Carolina BBQ Sauce coming out of my "suzy" right now. His sauce is very good, and very close to this recipe. Share Fancy. After simmering for a few minutes and cooling, I added several packets of Splenda and adjusted the salt to taste. jar pimento, chopped and drained1 pint apple cider vinegar2 cups sugar or sweetener cup salt tsp. Typically, Eastern NC sauce only consists of vinegar, sugar, salt and hot sauce/peppers. Begin making a roux by adding a little bit of flour at a time . For some reason it didn't occur to me to look for "liver pudding" rather than "livermush," even though Neese's (one of the favorite brands I recall eating) always called theirs liver pudding.I'm going to make some today, which will delight my daughter (and horrify my wife, who wasn't brought up on it.) I had a very expensive barbecue dinner at The Pit in Raleigh, and immediately knew that the original owner had not really disclosed his true award-winning recipe. We Also Recommend In Atlanta it can be found in Ingles groceries. Too, like todays flavorless chicken, pork that was naturally raised had FAR more flavor. Most seem to just put their high horse on and nose up, instead of having open minds! Write a Review, Win $500! $14.39 +. I made Crockpot Old South Pulled Pork on a Bun recently and it was delicious! A couple of them considered their %u201Csecret ingredient%u201D for Lexington Style BBQ %u201Cdip%u201D to be Bennett's Chili Sauce rather than catsup. It is a staple in our kitchen and I don't remember the last time we didn't have at least 1 bottle.There are places here that have hot versions of their sauce, but Texas sauce does not have a "kick" compared to anywhere else. Hell, you can use it on practically anything!!! IMHO most have never made the sauce themselves, so the absolute certainty expressed is disturbing. But I'm a Texan. The only sauce fit to eat in GA is mine and that is because i am from Raleigh NC! Pulled pork, beef brisket, and rib meat, mixed together in a sweet and spicy housemade sauce and served on buttery grilled Texas toast. Little did I know that the evolution of the sauce had come such a long way from that dated recipe, and Serious Eaters let me know it in no uncertain terms. Sit me down at any table in any region in this county where the pork is smoked, pulled and enjoyed and I'll try any of your local sauces to compliment it. That's the only way I ever had it in ENC!Posted Thu, Mar 20 2014 4:36AM, Scott Best sauce for pulled pork. I did confess the ketchup ingredient, days later when I had heard non-stop compliments about it and he asked for the recipe. Sauce Barbecue. Try it and tell me what you thinkPosted Fri, Jan 27 2012 1:51PM, ken benson (kinny binson) my parents owned restaurants for 35 years my daddy's family is originally from benson, nc. Posted Thu, Jul 9 2015 8:46PM, Teri I love that the comments on this recipe are still active after four years! The area they later moved to was mostly Scottish and English around what is now Williamsburg and Florence county. I was in Moscow at the time & my shock of running into a fellow American was confused with Texas arrogance. Daily Goals. Josh never said this was supposed to be an authentically (or exclusively) eastern NC sauce; his recipe very nicely captures the flavors of both eastern and western Carolina styles. Some of my pop's Tennessee tomato based sauce cooked on the pulled pork and some of the Carolina Tang on naked pulled pork. Brush Fire Barbeque Sauce. Wish me luck.Posted Sat, Jun 20 2020 11:11AM, stephen pontious Lived in Durham about 40 years ago and the very BEST pulled pork meal was from "Turnages." It took me almost 15 years to master what he did. This sauce is actually good for dipping grilled wings into!!! You'll know when you get there. Get City Barbeque Swine Wine Sauce delivered to you in as fast as 1 hour via Instacart or choose curbside or in-store pickup. I could drink that stuff straight from the bottle!Thanks for sharing the recipe! Not being a North Carolinian though, I still have to ask, "How am I doing? But I doubt I can find Texas Pete in Minnesota. red pepper1 quart tomatoes, mashed. We didnt mind the touch of ketchup, but then again we live in Western North Carolina.Posted Sat, Dec 5 2020 7:30PM, Krystal May What meats can you put the sauce on. Ingredients 1 quart milk 1 teaspoon vanilla 2 whole eggs 5 egg yolks 1 cup sugar 1/2 cup all-purpose flour Pinch salt 4-5 bananas Vanilla Wafers Instructions Bring milk and vanilla to a simmer in a double boiler. This style carries south and west into western Georgia and eastern Alabama.4) Piedmont style sauceThe Piedmont is the region in between eastern, western, and South Carolina, so it's not surprising that the typical sauce there is often a combination of all three styles. The further east or west you go the more extreme to their sauce they will tend to.Posted Wed, Dec 6 2017 1:45PM, Dick T Born and raised in W-S, NC. My late father-in-laws institutional wholesale company used to sell to a lot of bbq restaurants of all sizes. Usually a bit sweeter and thicker than Eastern style. Posted Thu, Jul 9 2015 7:59PM, ann @Ben Of course as long as the ribs were not cooked slathered in bbq sauce.! Pour the sauce into a jar or squeeze bottle and let rest in the refrigerator one day before using. January, 2023 Kentucky Exposition Center, 937 Phillips Ln Louisville, KY, Louisville, Kentucky. 1 Serving : 330: Baked Beans with Brisket. I was born in Tarboro, lived most of my life in Durham/Chapel Hill, and am settled in Asheville. I'm wanting to end up with a finished product along the lines of Neese's livermush, which even though they call it "liver pudding," is more like the livermush made by Valleydale and other manufacturers.As for SC barbecue, I agree that, historically, the mustard base was predated by a thinner mop more similar to eastern NC sauce, but you're hard-pressed to find anything NOT mustard-base in much of South Carolina now. No mayo!!! I add my rub and it's irresistible Posted Fri, Aug 1 2014 9:29PM, Peterrabit All this hoop about sauces when the most important thing and I say again IMPORTANT to cooked pork BBQ : first is good selection of meat,then your RUB,and finally SLOWCOOKING with wood of your choice that will give you the smoke flavor you injoy Sauces are made to enhance the flavor of the meat not to cover up it's taste.Good BBQ can stand alone and be great.If used, you what your taste buds like.Don't hide the good taste of the meat..Posted Tue, Sep 9 2014 12:25PM, Meautentot Dude, I am a NC girl. At home, I braise pork shoulders in a crock pot with milk and garlic cloves. Place all of the ingredients in a small, non-reactive sauce pan and bring to a boil. It will be interesting to get her take on it.Posted Tue, Aug 3 2010 10:52AM, Bryan Koen Oh, this looks delicious. Add onions to skillet and stir until just softened, about 2-3 minutes. I raised hogs as a kid on up and this is how its made Eastern NC area and south. Most famous is Maurice's. We Also Recommend. 7858 Shoal Creek Blvd. Stamey's in Greensboro has a similar slaw, and I love the que there.Allen & Son's near Chapel Hill recently closed also. 1 teaspoon salt, to taste. The reason it's so popular is because of the simplicity. I need some sauce right now, as I have some pulled, smoked pork but no sauce, so I'm going to try this one. Fry until fragrant then add the wine and lemon juice. Choose a chicken style- Choose 1: Chicken Breast & Wing, Chicken Leg & Thigh. Jan. 21, 2023: GBA Judges Class- Rhythm & Ribs BBQ Festival 2023, Ashburn, GA. Visit downtown Carrollton businesses and enjoy samples of chocolate at participating locations . We went to Albemarle, NC to Whispering Pines Restaurant for BBQ. Thank you for the recipe!Posted Sun, Oct 16 2016 4:29PM, p3orion Chance, I agree with you about the coarsening and loss of civility in our society, but I'm not sure this thread is an example of it. Posted Sat, Jul 19 2014 11:57AM, cheri ATL Pirate thanks for the 'Fresh' outlook from a NC native. Bennetts is a no meat chili sauce. Posted Tue, Mar 8 2011 10:48AM, wes I'm from SC, too, where have sort of a sauce schizophrenia, based on region, but I've always been partial to the eastern NC and SC vinegar based or the midlands SC vinegar/mustard base. I would think other pork "parts" could be interchanged.Posted Fri, Jan 1 2016 11:21AM, p3orion Thanks, Country, I guess I'm just going to have to just take one of those scrapple recipes and tinker until I can convert it to livermush. Sorry!Posted Sun, May 18 2014 2:44PM, protomeat This recipe is pretty much exactly a Piedmont or Lexington style North Carolina barbecue finishing sauce. I am doing VA BBQ and NC BBQ in a few days - do you know how many lbs of pork are seasoned by 2 cups. Mine turned out very thin. Eaten pulled pork here in central NC 4 times now and still haven't tasted a hint of smoke in any of them but usually the pork is at least good. The mustard came later with German immigrants and was popularized around Lexington.Liver mush is still made and very popular around Shelby. Leave it out, and you would have an "authentic" Eastern dip. Tenderest pig you ever et'. I was very surprised how mild "hot" food is here. The other sides and styles are endless. What's set a few people off is Josh's apparent blasphemy in calling a very good sauce that happens to include a tiny bit of ketchup an "eastern NC sauce." Put vinegar, sugar, salt and red pepper in blender and pulse until sugar is dissolved. ;) Posted Thu, Jul 4 2013 1:02AM, Adella I agree -- there's nothing that ruins an Eastern Carolina BBQ sauce like catsup! Eastern refers to east of I-95, not just east of Raleigh. Mac and Cheese Waffle Recipe. added half a bag of brown sugar a lot of ketchup and a cup water and strained out the red pepper just to make it edible.Posted Thu, Apr 2 2015 4:10AM, p3orion A Says-I know some folks have less tolerance for pepper heat, and there's no accounting for taste, but wouldn't it have been easier just to start over?Posted Thu, Apr 2 2015 9:06AM, carpetbagger This is NOT "NC pepper vinegar sauce". Smoked chicken, pulled from the bone and mixed with scratch-made 'Bama sauce. It has its uses, but doubling for Texas Pete is not one of them.Posted Mon, Oct 21 2013 2:23PM, Daniel Here in Salisbury,NC. This sauce is spot on and those of us who like Lexington style BBQ will love this recipe! Been to, and helped with, a number of pig pickin's through the years. Raised on the outer banks and catsup will get you disowned!Posted Sun, May 28 2017 3:20PM, Clemustine Sinack Ok. born and raised in NC wilson NC. All-natural chicken breast, filleted by hand and served on a bun. Although not quite pitch perfect, this recipe comes close. It was serves chopped or sliced with no sauce. Being of Southern roots, Tennessee and Florida, myself I find that Carolina Tang Sauce truly enjoyable and a pleasant change from ANY BBQ sauce on pulled pork. Pour over cabbage and mix well. "NO KETCHUP!" Scott's is a traditional Eastern NC sauce made in Goldsboro, which is the heart of ENC BBQ country. I think its great!Posted Fri, May 1 2015 5:24PM, Ann Except for the brown sugar, this is how I make my sauce. The watery consistency of the mopping sauce is applied throughout the smoking. With the breadth of comments that post elicited, I've been able to piece together and refine a sauce that I finally feel confident enough is in proper shape to present to the finest smoked swine and the interweb masses at large. butt that's slow cookin' in the oven. I get so many compliments every time I cook, it's almost embarassing. Now back to that 8lb. I am trying to figure out what sauce to serve with my 6lb butt tomorrow. The meat is chapped or pulled and carries plenty of flavor without the sugary, tomato based thick glazes that most have to use because the meat was cooked incorrectly in the first place.Posted Thu, Dec 3 2015 1:07PM, p3orion That's true if you want whole-hog barbecue, but some of us prefer the premium cuts like butts and picnics (and also prefer ending up with less than 50 or 60 pounds of the finished product.) i'm having to do everything with my non-dominant arm. Need to get some buns for my BBQ sammiches!!! These spins are often what becomes a guarded secret in a recipe. The one that started it all! . The key thing was the flavor of the free range hogs the came first and foremost. Yum. Depending on the crowd I will add more or less Texas Pete to control the heat. Now that they are deceased. It's spot on. ketchup is a nice addition as I enjoy western nc sauce. When I was in Texas and (ironically) couldn't get Texas Pete, I found that Crystal is a pretty good substitute for it, too. Posted Mon, Jul 28 2014 1:42PM, Scott There is noi substitute for making your own sauce, but I have to say, being born and raised in eastern NC, the most authentic vinegar sauce in a bottle has to be Grendeddy Daves "Hawgwash" based out of Wake Forest, NC. 52. 499. jar pimento, chopped and drained1 pint apple cider vinegar2 cups sugar or sweetener cup salt tsp. "Rib sauces are thicker, with a base of ketchup and sugar (molasses, brown sugar, whatever.) Just a few comments to add:I've been in Texas for more than 20 years and never had any trouble finding Texas Pete's. picked, pulled and chopped the pork drenched with the sauce then added what ever other sauce the customer wanted or sliced "naked" my personal favoritecouldn't use tomato, sugar or butter or the meats would char before they cooked thru. I am from Virginia but lived in South Carolina and Georgia. As for the sugar, originally it was brown sugar. It is easy, cheap, and fast to make. I was raised in Winston-Salem and Texas Pete is a complete MUST. That was 100 people! Swine Wine. Currently there is no recipe available for City Barbeque Swine Wine Sauce, however here are some other copycat recipes you might be interested in: Golden Corral Seafood Salad Recipe Golden Corral Pot Roast Recipe Jack In The Box Garlic Herb Chicken Recipe City Barbeque Deals & Coupons I even make a big batch at Christmas for gifts. "Ketchup and brown sugar" is Texas or Kansas City. Again, it's a matter of taste, but just because you disagree doesn't mean you should fancy yourself the official arbiter of what deserves to be called a "North Carolina sauce. They're still around and in Greenville too though it doesn't taste like it used to. My late father-in-law's institutional wholesale company used to sell to a lot of bbq restaurants of all sizes. I smoke my own pork butts for pulled pork about 14-18 hours, and I think it's better than anything I can get locally. MAP IT! I cook and sell bbq as a fundraiser and it's common to have people tell me that it's the best they ever had. In a large pot over medium heat, simmer the chicken pieces in the water or chicken broth until very tender; remove from heat and let cool. Double Smoked Holiday Ham (with Caramel Country Gravy) Watch on. "Posted Fri, Sep 19 2014 7:20PM, Becky The only time I was in North Carolina was a one-hour layover in Charlotte (and a lovely airport it is, by the way! It can be eaten cold, but is much better sliced and fried (in bacon grease, ideally) and served as a breakfast item.Livermush is similar to the scrapple of Pennsylvania (and no doubt evolved from the recipes of the same German settlers) but has relatively less cornmeal than that, I believe. I lived in Raleigh for 16 years and had a sales territory of Chapel Hill to the coast, so I had the true pleasure of eating at every little mom and pop Eastern NC joint I could find (Ralph's in Roanoke Rapids, Olde Tyme in Raleigh, and the little one in Williamston were my favorites). Keep up the great work here!Posted Wed, Aug 25 2010 10:50AM, jennifer I moved to MD from NC last year and MISS BBQ!!!